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NCIS Season 23, Episode 20: Who Got Shot?
“NCIS” loves to end its seasons with a bang, and this time could be the most earth-shattering yet for Sean Murray’s Timothy McGee.
Episode 20, titled “Sons and Daughters,” followed as the team investigated a series of bombings with the help of Leon Vance’s grief-stricken daughter. It also saw McGee introduce his son Mateo (Patrick Keleher) to the NCIS squad as he toured the headquarters and appeared to show interest in joining the organization. But soon it became clearer that McGee’s adult son, who he just found out about this season, had ulterior motives for visiting the office.
After giving conflicting stories to his father and to Nick Torres (Wilmer Valderrama), the finale concludes with Mateo and Nick in a standoff. After Nick finds him in a dark alley, he insists Nick stop walking and explain what he’s up to, but Mateo says he would be in danger if he stopped. After the duo argues a bit, the camera pans away from the street — only for one shot to be heard in the distance, leaving what happened and who got shot a mystery for “NCIS” fans to ponder for the summer.

“I see at least three or four awesome ways this can go,” Murray told TheWrap of the nerve-wracking cliffhanger. “What does it do to Mateo? What does it do to Torres and McGee’s relationship? A lot of stuff’s at stake here.”
“The fact that I’ve been here for 23 years and I’m super excited about this finale. I think it means we’re doing something right,” he added.
Tuesday’s episode marked the end of “NCIS” Season 23, one that Murray celebrated as a creative high for the long-running CBS crime procedural. It’s the season where the show surpassed its 500th episode — an increasingly rare feat for modern TV shows.
Below, Murray reflected on the “NCIS” legacy, his hopes for McGee and Mateo and his message to the show’s loyal fans after this cliffhanger.
TheWrap: What was your reaction when you learned how Season 23 would wrap up?
Murray: I was very happy when I saw what was planned, and what we ended up doing.
This year has been, in my opinion, a particularly good year for the show in terms of stories and just stakes for the characters. I’ve really been quite into this whole season. And I think our finale is terrific. The whole stuff with Mateo, McGee learning about a son from a relationship before he was married. He’s trying to make up for lost time a little bit. So he’s trying to be there and form a relationship with him.
The personal stake is all about that last scene, and what happens next. The different possibilities for when we open [next season]. I’m really happy with the episode.
The finale brought Mateo in as he toured NCIS, as McGee attempts to bond with the son he just found out he had. How do you envision the state of their relationship at the start of the episode?
McGee’s always fancied himself a good father. So even finding out about this adult son that he didn’t know about, he really wants to have a relationship with him, as much as possible. Mateo is a bit of a tech head. And you know the fact that he’s showing any sort of interest in what McGee does and the agency, McGee is beyond thrilled to have him check things out
I think McGee is just so happy to seem to be in a good place with this kid at this kind of beginning of their relationship.
He’s very eager, obviously … What remains to be seen is the infiltration and what exactly he’s getting into and on behalf of what or who exactly to get to that final scene.

It becomes clear that Mateo has some secrets of his own after he gives conflicting stories to both Nick and McGee, which leads to the wild standoff between Nick and Mateo that ends in the wild cliffhanger of us not knowing who was shot. How did you react to that ending?
I remember going up to one of our writers, who wrote this particular episode. I had heard some inklings as far as what was going to happen. I said, “I see at least three or four awesome ways this can go.” The fact that I’ve been here for 23 years and I’m super excited about this finale is like, I think it means we’re doing something right.
What does it do to Mateo? What does it do to Torres and McGee’s relationship? A lot of stuff’s at stake here. I like it.
“NCIS” aired its 500th episode this year. Has that sunk in for you, given that you’ve been on most of those?
Wow. I mean, the fact that we’ve done 500 episodes is amazing and ridiculous. It’s a big question.
About 20 minutes ago, I walked outside my hotel in Edinburgh to a little doughnut shop down there, and a woman came up and started speaking. She was a fan of the show, and she was so sweet. She was talking about how she grew up watching it with her parents. And I just thought of when you’re in somebody’s home with their family or a generation, it’s pretty wild.
500 episodes and we’re still going strong. We’ve got a really good group of people, not only behind the cameras, but in front of the cameras. We have a blast, but besides the fact that we just love each other and have a great time doing it, we wouldn’t be doing it if we didn’t care. We’re always trying to push to make it better.

Leon Vance was killed off the show this season, but Rocky Carroll will continue to direct behind the scenes and appear in flashbacks like in the finale I’m sure. This is just the latest cast exit the show has seen through the seasons, how is it to be the constant on the show as you see these cast changes?
We’ve gone through these different iterations. People have come and gone. Luckily, I’ve been pretty close with everyone who’s come and gone, so no one’s quite gone for me in that way. In fact, Rocky and I are planning our next Vegas trip.
I remember even having this discussion with David McCallum years ago. It was actually towards the end of Season 2, when Sasha Alexander, who played Caitlin Todd, died at the end of the end of the season. I just remember some of us internally knew what was happening, I remember McCallum likening things to a brick wall. You have to be very careful taking bricks out of that wall and replacing it with other bricks. But it’s worked out.
And thinking about that, it feels like it happened two weeks ago. I don’t know how all this time has flown by.
This wrapped up your 23rd season on the show, 22nd as a series regular. Are you still all-in with “NCIS” or could you be getting ready for another role?
I’m blessed with this “NCIS” job. I always will feel that way. I’m an actor, so I’m always thinking about work and that aspect of it, but I’m incredibly proud to be a part of “NCIS” and always have been, and it continues more and more. We had “Origins” launch two years ago, and you’ve got “New York” coming up. It’s pretty wild that a quarter of a century later, there’s spinoffs happening.
We’ll see how this big cliffhanger goes, but NCIS always finds a way to move past a catastrophic twist to focus on its characters. What are you hoping to dive into more with McGee next season?
I want more with Mateo. I want to get more into McGee and how all this affects him, his family and all of that. Depending on where we open the new season, we could go in a lot of ways. As long as we’ve got this bunch, these writers and our cast, it’s going to be good.
I can’t wait to see what happens. Just keep watching, because we’re not going to let you down. We have plenty of surprises in store.
“NCIS” Seasons 1-23 are now streaming on Paramount+. The show is renewed for Season 24.
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Creators: AI Is the Future. We Need to Be Transparent About Using It
Artificial intelligence is here and can’t be ignored, which one creator summed up neatly with a matter-of-fact comment.
“I do voice acting as well, and so I’m already preparing for my job to not exist,” said Vincent Marcus, a creator and comedian who does impersonations, about why he’s gone all-in on AI.
Marcus was speaking on Tuesday at TheWrap’s inaugural AI Creator Day, a part of our annual Grill business conference. The subject of the panel was about voicing AI-generated bot characters for AI social platform Cantina, which offers the potential for him to monetize his creativity.
Being able to better monetize creator ideas and imagination was a key theme to the all-day conference. But an undercurrent was the inevitability of AI, and the perils of ignoring the technology that’s disrupting every industry. For creators, it’s a fine line to walk, with even the hint of using AI eliciting fan backlash.
But for those at the panel, the upside of AI is too attractive to ignore.
“This is where the future is heading,” said Rebecca Zamolo, a YouTube and founder of MOLO Fertility. “I think it’s important that we acknowledge that. I think it’s about being transparent with your audience.”

As AI has become more prevalent, more creators have been using the technology in their workflows. Some creators use this tech through third-party companies like Cantina; some use popular AI platforms like ChatGPT and Claude directly, and some use AI tools that have been directly added to the biggest social media platforms.
For example, YouTube’s AI tools let creators A/B test headlines and thumbnails, and Ask Studio — the platform’s AI-powered Q&A offering — acts as a specialized AI agent that’s fluent in a creator’s channel, a feature that’s helpful for data analytics. TikTok has its Symphony Creative Studio, a generative suite that lets creators use AI to create text-to-video, image-to-animation and digital avatars. As for Instagram, the Meta-owned platform has Muse, a personal AI agent designed to help Instagram creators manage workflows, analyze account activity and plan content
Zamolo and husband Matt Slays talked about how AI dubbing of its content has extended the reach of their YouTube channel. Slays noted that its channel went from having 65% of its audience being in the U.S. to 35% in short time (he didn’t specify), noting the wider international audience it now gets
“We were able to exponentially grow our markets without doing as much,” Slays said.
Don’t hate the game
Shira Lazar acknowledged the stigma of the “AI creator” and polled several participants about what they should do it about it.
“We don’t get to decide,” said Destorm Power, an entrepreneur and creator. “If they want to call me an AI creator, that’s fine.”
“The game is changing, we’re just in the game,” said Bernie Su, head of creative for Pickford and an Emmy-winning web series creator. “We’ll do our thing. Audiences will react to us, and we’ll see what happens.”
Zamolo acknowledged that they’re still testing the boundaries with what is and isn’t okay with AI.
“If it gets crazy, they usually will call us out in the comments,” she said. “But I think that’s just part of learning how to use it correctly anyway.”
But one of the key ideas several participants stressed was dispelling the notion that AI was killing creativity. Instead, that’s something that’s in greater need as the technology allows people to bring to life their wildest ideas.
“Everyone’s creative. Get those ideas out there. Write them down,” said Katherine Rundell, senior director of partnerships at Cantina. “Keep those ideas flowing. Creativity is more important than ever in the age of AI. Lean into that.”
Q: I guess do you get any pushback from my past provision from other creators? You know, even being here, I think that you saw some creators that are like instead coming here to talk about this, and others that are scared because they get a lot of pushback from the audience. Are you ever worried about it, guys.
A (Rebecca Zomolo speaking):
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Austin Abrams Talks Resident Evil’s Fan Backlash
Zach Cregger’s “Resident Evil,” in a little more than two weeks, has already amassed nearly $200 million at the global box office.
Instead of a straight adaptation of the long-running video game series (or an extension of the already-existing film franchise), Cregger chose to tell a new story within the world of the games – a story that follows a hapless medical courier named Bryan (played by Austin Abrams), who is sent on a desperate mission to the heart of Raccoon City during a zombie outbreak. It is an all-gas, no-brakes rollercoaster ride that is carried along by Abrams’ performance – vulnerable, hilarious, inquisitive, the perfect audience surrogate. Even when things get weird, really weird, Abrams’ oddly emotional performance keeps us engaged.
Abrams said that Cregger first mentioned the project while the two were working on “Weapons,” which would go on to be a box office hit and an unlikely Oscar winner. But Cregger didn’t say anything specific about Abrams joining the project.
“It wasn’t until he was in post-production for ‘Weapons’ that he called and wanted me to read the script basically,” Abrams said. He hadn’t played the games (“Other than seeing it and being too afraid to play it”) but once he got the part it emboldened him to play horror/survival games that had a similar spirit.
Whereas “Weapons” was an ensemble piece, with Abrams portraying an unforgettable character (a junkie/thief who stumbles upon the mystery of a missing classroom of kids), with “Resident Evil” he would take center stage. The movie is him. And that left him a little nervous.
“You never know if you can do something until it’s done. It’s huge question marks. I feel personally like we’re going to be interested enough in watching this person,” Abrams said. “Not that everyone could feel that way. Or are they going to be like, I don’t really care about this guy that much. I don’t really want to watch this movie? It could happen. There’s a lot of feelings of the unknown came up.”
While shooting the movie, Abrams started to get the impression that it was going to be okay. “You catch the vibe of the people around you and they’re seeming to be into the character and that helps. You’re not getting like red lights. You keep going,” he added.
And while Abrams knew that he would be the audience stand-in, crafting a character through physicality rather than dialogue (“It feels good being in the body and using it as a tool,” he said) there were still some pretty radical changes to the final film, like when Cregger admitted that, after a test screening, he went through the movie and pulled out most of the jokes.
“There were some asides where I was like, ‘Are you going to keep that?’ Or ‘maybe check that out again.’ There was a bunch of stuff like that where we would take it to a place that was too far, really for our own enjoyment. And you never really know, until you get in the edit, how much you’re going want or not,” said Abrams. ”Especially for like this, where it’s a straight shot and there aren’t all these other characters that you’re interacting with. You want options. I don’t think it would be as enjoyable to watch if it was just straight through. If there wasn’t any laughs in it, I think it would be too unrelenting. Adding comedy, which is what I think Zach is so smart about too, really helps the enjoyment of it and relieves some of the pressure.”
One thing scarier than zombies or plague-infested monsters was the response of the die-hard Resident Evil fans to Cregger making a movie that eschewed the classic characters and established lore of the series. They were very upset about his approach.
Abrams was sympathetic. “I read a book that I love and then they’re going to do another one or make it into a different one. You don’t want someone to f–k it up. You have a personal connection with it. I get what that feeling is like. There’s that passion there,” Abrams said.
He said that he and Cregger “did the best job we could.” “We had a strong base of love and I think our best shot at making something that they would enjoy,” Abrams said. Cregger is a huge fan of the games and has played them all, including this year’s Resident Evil: Requiem. Their approach? “Make what you dig and then hope that other people dig it,” said Abrams.
Fan service was not something that they were interested in (Abrams said it doesn’t work in “a meaningful way”). “If you’re going to end up making something that feels fresh, I think that’s the best shot you have making something interesting,” he said. But still, he said, “I only send love to all those people.”
Before he started working with Cregger, Abrams was a fan of “Barbarian,” his debut feature. He remembers thinking, I love whoever’s made this movie, because they have guts and extreme talent and skill, and a comedic understanding that is really rare and that I relate to. Meeting him, Abrams found that they were perfectly in sync.
“We connect on many other levels, aspiring for the same thing and we have a similar level of what we deem to be the work that we want to make,” Abrams said. “I think that helps us to push each other. We both understand what it is we’re trying to make and have a similar sensibility.”
“He is a total dream to work with. I mean, truly a dream, and he is a beautiful, kind person. And he’s such a formidable actor. He’s so good at whatever he tries to do. I have yet to see him find his limit. That guy’s range is miraculous,” said Cregger. “When it was time to go and put this one together, it was like there wasn’t even a decision. There was not a moment of like, Well, who else could we? No, it’s Austin.”
There isn’t a role for Abrams in Cregger’s upcoming sci-fi freakout “The Flood” (which just cast Jennifer Lawrence in the lead role), but when we asked Abrams if he was the Kurt Russell to Cregger’s John Carpenter, he smiled wide and said, “Hey, you said it. I didn’t say it.”
When it came to – spoilers ahoy! – Abrams’ monstrous transformation towards the end of the film, he said that he actually found the motion-capture process enjoyable.
“I was shocked at like how minimal they needed to be able to capture everything,” said Abrams. “It’s all those other guys. You see them in a room, just imagining all this stuff.”
And given the open-endedness of the movie (and the fact that the video game series has been running for so long), we had to ask if Cregger had said anything to him about coming back for another installment. Another entry seems more and more likely, especially as its box office tally continues to grow.
“We’ve had the smallest of discussions. I also don’t want to go into it too much at all because I don’t know how things would play,” said Abrams.
Still, it’s very clear – if Cregger has an idea for how to bring Bryan back to snowy Raccoon City, Abrams would be there. In whatever shape – monstrous or otherwise – that would take.
“Resident Evil” is in theaters now.
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