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‘Off Campus’ Boss Talks Season 1 Ending, Season 2 Hopes & New Faces

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SPOILER ALERT! This piece spoils the entirety of Off Campus Season 1 on Prime Video.

Editor’s Note: Trigger & Content Warning – This piece also mentions rape and physical abuse as part of the main characters’ storylines.

The first season of Prime Video’s Off Campus follows a fake dating bargain between Garrett Graham (Belmont Cameli) and Hannah Wells (Ella Bright), and, as with most literary bargains of this nature, the romance becomes real.

The singer songwriter and star hockey player make their arrangement after Garrett asks Hannah to tutor him in their philosophy class to boost his grade. He offers to act like she’s his girlfriend so that she can get the attention of the singer songwriter she has a crush on, Justin Kohl (Josh Heuston). The forced proximity between the pair combines gives way to two big connections that help them realize they have what it takes to be in a real romantic relationship.

“The first moment [was], ‘How can you show [that] two people, who are so different, maybe have common ground?’ Music is talked about a lot in the books, and we do our best to honor that, while also updating it over a decade later. Hannah is described in the books as having very eclectic musical taste,” Levy told Deadline. “I was really curious to see how her musical taste can overlap with Garrett’s, but also finding the pulse of these characters through music — whether it’s their actual taste or the music that we’re playing to score their lives — is a very big part of the show.”

The couple also come to bond over their past trauma and struggles in a way where they comfort each other about them and move forward from what happened to them. Supporting each other through vocalizing their backstories makes their bond stronger.

“[Hannah] mentions [what happened to her] in the book very early, so it’s not a secret, but it’s easier for it not to define you when you get that inner monologue, whereas in a TV show, if you say it from in the first episode, it becomes the thing that defines that character,” Levy added. “I wanted it to not be the thing that defines her, if you don’t know, and also to make sure that it doesn’t feel like a big, splashy reveal. What it does for the Garrett-Hannah relationship, is now both of these characters have a thing that they don’t want to define them, but that they keep a secret, and in the very nature of keeping it a secret, it defines them.”

L-R: Garrett Graham (Belmont Cameli) and Hannah Wells (Ella Bright) in OFF CAMPUS

L-R: Garrett Graham (Belmont Cameli) and Hannah Wells (Ella Bright) in OFF CAMPUS

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Hannah and Garrett both open up about their pasts individually to other people after finding safe space in each other. And though Phil Graham’s (Steve Howey) involvement in the third act disconnect between Hannah and Garrett is different in the show, Levy assures readers that it could come back up later.

“We don’t tie everything up tidily in a bow. We never know when we might circle back to something,” she said. “If anything is not resolved in a tidy bow the way book bands might want, don’t worry, we are a TV show. Hopefully we’ll have the opportunity to do that if we get enough seasons.”

In the below interview, Levy talks her approach to adapting the hit novels, hints at what to expect in season two, discusses major musical moments and more.

DEADLINE: Did you always want to start the way the books start with Garrett and Hannah and The Deal story for Season 1? Did you consider starting with any other couples?

LOUISA LEVY: No, I didn’t, because [with] The Deal, there’s a reason why it’s the beginning in the book series, and it was the first book I read in the series. It’s the first book I think most people read in the series, and Hannah and Garrett are just such a great couple to come in with. I love each of the couples for their own reasons, but I think Hannah and Garrett are the OG so it felt like the right the right place to start.

L-R: Garrett Graham (Belmont Cameli) and Hannah Wells (Ella Bright) in OFF CAMPUS

L-R: Garrett Graham (Belmont Cameli) and Hannah Wells (Ella Bright) in OFF CAMPUS

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DEADLINE: Stepping back a bit, what did make you say yes to this project? Did you talk to Elle Kennedy? I’m curious how you arrived at it.

LEVY: I actually didn’t talk to Elle Kennedy before signing on to this project, mostly because it was right before the writers’ strike, and it was all quite rushed, so it was a chaotic time. While it would have been wonderful to chat with her beforehand, I didn’t, because I didn’t know if we were going to close a deal before the strike. I didn’t know what was going to happen.

I pitched it to Temple Hill. I pitched it to Amazon. The property was already set up at both places, so it was really just me pitching my take and why I should be the one writing it. And we closed the deal a few days before — The Deal — a few days before the writers’ strike started, and then I wasn’t allowed to work on it, so I wouldn’t have been allowed to talk to Elle Kennedy either.

I got excited about it, and then I had to sit on my hands for a few months. And then once, once we came back, I was very excited to dive in and write the pilot. So I finally was able to get in touch with with Elle, once the writers room had actually started, and we had a really lovely, long conversation, and we got to share what our plans were for the season. Iit was wonderful.

DEADLINE: Could you summarize your take or how you pitched it?

LEVY: A big part of my pitch was just how much I love romance novels and romance. It was a big part, a formative part of my experience growing up, and also loving the college age and the college era and how this is such a special time in your life. I look back on my college experiences so fondly, but it’s the thing that I’ve always gravitated towards, especially for why this book series should be a TV show, is because that is such a critical time in our lives when we’re no longer in the world of our parents, we’re no longer children, but we’re not yet fully adults living in the real world. We’re in this kind of magical bubble. It’s a perfect bubble for a TV show.

It’s also centered around figuring out who you want to fall in love with and who you want to maybe spend the rest of spend the rest of your life with, figuring out who your best friends are — because it’s a romance, but it’s also a friendship story. Some of my favorite things about these characters is the friendships that form separate from the romances, and that also felt ripe for TV adaptation.

On top of that, I was really interested in — the books are written alternating POV, Garrett’s POV, Hannah’s POV, and all of the books are written that way, once you get into the other books in the series as well. I really love being able to drop into characters heads, but of course, the fun challenge for being a TV show is you can’t in the same way that you can in a novel. I was very excited and interested in, ‘How do I drop into Hannah’s POV?’ Because Hannah does not like Garrett when she first meets him. So I was really interested in seeing, ‘How does she see this guy?’ And it’s not particularly favorable. And then, ‘How does he see her?’ And it’s not particularly accurate. Being able to follow each of their POVs as they get to know each other and become friends first and then eventually fall in love was exciting.

DEADLINE: How did you want to unite their characters through music and navigate that? There’s Billy Idol’s “Dancing With Myself” in the pilot and then a Mazzy Star song in the finale.

LEVY: That was the other reason why I was really excited about this particular book and couple to start off with, is, I’ve always been very musical, and this show is actually a stealth musical. There’s so much music in it, not just the needle drops that we have, but also the on-camera music performances. And as you pointed out, the musical moments that these characters share that show us, the audience, that they have more in common than they believe.

Hannah Wells (Ella Bright) in OFF CAMPUS

Hannah Wells (Ella Bright) in OFF CAMPUS

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DEADLINE: I have to ask about the Maggie Rogers’ “Back in Your Body” needle drop. I heard the song and I couldn’t place it at first because there was no singing. Did you have any other ideas, or did you see that song very clearly there?

LEVY: We do script a lot of the musical moments in our show, but that one was not scripted. That one was a discovery in the editing room. And I remember our fabulous music supervisors, Amanda Krieg Thomas, and Anna Romanoff sent me a dump of songs, and we had this beautiful footage, but it wasn’t quite working, and I couldn’t figure out why. I actually sat with my assistant one day, and we just listened to all the songs. When we got to that song, I was like, “Oh, obviously, this is obviously it.” However, it felt we needed it to build.

There’s a very important build that’s happening in that scene, both musically and also in Hannah’s literal body. But also, how can we use this song to show that the “broken” — and I put quotes around that very intentionally because she’s not broken, but she thinks she is — the “broken” pieces of Hannah are being put back together. We actually deconstructed the song to do that. So the song starts out where it’s just instrumental, and then we start to hear some backing vocals come in first, and then finally, when everything comes together, Maggie’s beautiful vocal comes in. It was just an extraordinary discovery in the edit room. I have to do a shout out to our fabulous editor, Lisa Robison, but her assistant editor, Noah, put that together for the first pass, and we were just all so floored, and it worked so perfectly.

DEADLINE: I wanted to ask more generally about your approach to that big climax scene for Hannah and Garrett, as well as the rape that happened to Hannah?

LEVY: It was one of the first things that compelled me about this story is that Hannah is a survivor, but it’s not a story about assault or trauma. It’s a story about surviving and about learning how to live with [it] and that you can live a full life with that. I love how positively Elle portrayed it in the book, and it was really important to us in the writers room to carry that story responsibly.

You’ll notice, we never show it, we never show the event, and we’re very careful about what we show and also what we give screentime and storytime to. It’s all about what’s triggering Hannah in that moment, and what the real trigger is and what the real block is. The other thing that we discovered in the writers’ room to try to externalize what Elle did so beautifully internally in the book, is we found that — and this is not in the book, but we felt like it was a natural extension of what’s there — her writer’s block came from shutting herself down.

So again, it’s not him. We’re not giving him any power. She blocked herself up because she was not ready to deal with that at the time and didn’t realize that’s what she did. It felt really important to us to explore “What power can she reclaim in rediscovering her own voice?”

Hannah Wells (Ella Bright) in OFF CAMPUS

Hannah Wells (Ella Bright) in OFF CAMPUS

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DEADLINE: With the song at the end that she sings, how did that come about Did Ella contribute to that? What was the process of putting that together?

LEVY: Amy Allen wrote that song with Ethan Gruska, for us, which was just a just pinch me moment to collaborate with Amy Allen, and we shared a brief of what we wanted the song to be. We knew roughly what we wanted it to be, and we shared some episodes with her so that she understood Hannah’s story and also Hannah’s voice. One of the scenes that I think really resonated — Amy will have to speak to this herself, but I think one of the scenes that really resonated with her was that scene with Allie and and Hannah in 108, where Hannah’s finally telling Allie what happened to her, and Allie says, “Oh, you don’t have to tell me. I knew all along, you’re the girl.”

That’s a scene where Hannah’s trying to figure out which girl she wants to be. She wants to find the girl that she was before. I think that’s where the title came from, and a lot of those ideas of — it was important to both me and Amy that she’s not broken, and that’s very important to say, and that she realizes that in that moment. But Garrett also was an important part of that revelation, too, and so that song is a tribute to herself, but it’s also a tribute to Allie, and it’s also a tribute to Garrett. Finding that balance was really fun. Amy and I did a lot of back and forth, and then I finally got to play it for Ella on set one day. I have a video of her listening to it, and she cried. It was beautiful.

Another very important contributor to that song is Alana de Fonseca, our music producer, who arranged it. Amy and Ethan wrote it, but Alana arranged it in the way that Hannah arranged it, with the looping and the hockey sounds and all of the instruments. It was very important to us also that Hannah could exist alone on stage and build this song herself. That’s also a crucial part of what I think makes that song work.

Garrett Graham (Belmont Cameli) in OFF CAMPUS

DEADLINE: You’ve made some changes to how things end in terms of Garrett’s hockey career for Season 1. Will you want to explore that a little more in season two? How did you arrive at ending it there? I’d love to see Aaron Delaney get some, justice, or have them get closure.

LEVY: We spent a lot of time making sure that we got the hockey as correct as we could, and we actually have done even more work in season two to better understand Garrett’s position as a hockey player who has been drafted by the Bruins, but is still trying to finish out his college career. There’s a lot a lot more on that in season two that we didn’t get to scratch the surface of in season one.

As far as season one goes, we mostly wanted to explore how Garrett is finding himself in the shadow of his father, and that’s both specific to his hockey experience, but also pretty universal. Whether or not we have famous parents, we always have to define ourselves in separation from them right around the time of college, usually, and so that was a big part of his journey.

DEADLINE: Each book focuses on a certain couple, but you wove Dean and Allie into season one. Are you less concerned about isolating the love stories to specific seasons?

LEVY: Every season is going to have a main love story that’s going to drive the season, but we also want to honor the fact that there’s happily ever afters in these books, and so once there’s a happily ever after, we don’t want to keep tearing them apart and bring them back together. That’s not fun for any of us. We love the couples, so there is a passing of the baton that happens, but we also don’t want Hannah and Garrett to ride off into the sunset and disappear from the landscape of our show. They are still very much present in season two, and are a big part of the community of characters that we’re building on the show.

DEADLINE: Is it safe to say Dean and Allie are the focus of season two? Can you say?

LEVY: I can’t confirm that yet, but that will we will say more on that once we air.

Allie Hayes (Mika Abdalla) in OFF CAMPUS

Allie Hayes (Mika Abdalla) in OFF CAMPUS

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DEADLINE: I just love the J Lo needle drop scene and how you slowly bring them together. What is behind the decision to bring in Charlie Evans as Hunter Davenport?

LEVY: That’s obviously a very big twist in the season. Hunter is a character in the books, but is does not really have a lot of conflict until we get to his books. He has a book in the Briar U series, and we mostly just wanted to tap on the fact that we have more than just four books, and we want to play with a whole universe of Elle Kennedy characters, and we intend to. And they might show up in ways that you don’t expect, especially ones that have more story down the line.

So, yeah, he came up. It’s a little different than the books. We wanted to find ways to externalize the internal and keep the stories going, but it was a fun way to play with that character, and it still does honor, you know, his backstory. And there are some things coming up Season Two that all I’ll tease, but not reveal anything, because there’s a ways to go before we get to it

DEADLINE: In regards to getting a season two before season one airs, did that help you plot out season one at all? Did you roughly plot out season two or did it influence how season one shaped out?

LEVY: We shot all of season one before we got a season two pickup. We knew what season one was going to be, and we always had. I’ve always had visions of at least four seasons, because we have four books. In success, I think this show could go for a while, and that’s my hope. I think it’s Prime Video’s hope too. We’ll see, tune in and watch so that we do. So we had loose ideas for what season two would be. There’s certain things that we’ve obviously set up at the end of season one that we have to pay off and honor in season two. But beyond that, I think it’s really more the structure that we were teeing up. And there’s some really fun book moments that we get to play with in season two as well, and that’s kind of all I can say.

DEADLINE: For Garrett’s storyline with his dad, I feel like that aligns with how you’re very conscious of what you want to show on camera like with Hannah’s story. How did you want to approach their relationship and the reveal of Phil Graham’s abuse?

LEVY: That was another thing that we, in the writer’s room, were really compelled by in The Deal, which is, not only is Garrett living under the shadow of his dad, but also his dad is abusive, and Garrett doesn’t talk about it. One of the things that I found really interesting, and it involves a little bit of a shift from the book, I made a shift that Hannah also doesn’t talk about her past for a couple of reasons, one, because it made it easier for me not to have that be the thing that leads and that defines her, because it doesn’t define her In the book.

Both of them have to go on a journey this season to figure out how to separate themselves from this thing so that it doesn’t define them, but that they can become their own person. For Garrett’s journey, he only has one living parent, because he lost his mom when he was younger, and he goes on a journey where, like many kids of abusive parents, you want to hope that your parent could change, and maybe you could get the parent that you never had. Deep down, that’s not going to happen, but you don’t want to know that. So we got to explore what would happen if Garrett started to hope. And then unfortunately, we don’t want to rehabilitate Phil Graham because he’s a pretty bad person, but, but I think that’s the thing that makes it real [that] we don’t give everything a happy ending.

(L-R) John Tucker (Jalen Thomas Brooks), Garrett Graham (Belmont Cameli), Hannah Wells (Ella Bright), Dean Di Laurentis (Stephen Thomas Kalyn) and John Logan (Antonio Cipriano) in OFF CAMPUS

(L-R) John Tucker (Jalen Thomas Brooks), Garrett Graham (Belmont Cameli), Hannah Wells (Ella Bright), Dean Di Laurentis (Stephen Thomas Kalyn) and John Logan (Antonio Cipriano) in OFF CAMPUS

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DEADLINE: This show is being promoted as a cross between Bridgerton and Heated Rivalry. How do you feel those comparisons bolster the show and how it’s different? What will Off Campus add to the conversation when it comes out?

LEVY: We should be so lucky to be compared to those shows. I am so honored. We are so different from both of them, but I’m honored to be in the same breath as them. Off Campus Really is a college show first and foremost, which neither of those are. It is a romance. But as I’ve said before, it’s also about it’s about community, it’s about friendship.

It’s a show where we get to dive into these characters lives and live with them and exist with them, and they can hopefully become our friends. So we get to fall in love. We get to we get to discover ourselves, our voices, in the case of Hannah, and I think one of the things that makes Off Campus unique and special is that it really is a time in your life when you are creating and carving your identity, and that’s unique to these four years of college.

We wanted to tell a story that was really aspirational for anybody who hasn’t been in college, but also nostalgic for those of us who are out of college, and hopefully also feels like we’re looking at these college students at eye level, so we’re not looking down. We really want to honor that experience, and I think that’s what makes the show special and unique.

DEADLINE: Have you considered making any of the hockey players queer or other big changes to those romances?

LEVY: I love a queer romance. I also want to honor the books that Elle wrote. While I would love to be able to layer in new characters, at this moment in time, I don’t have plans to make any big changes to the book characters in that way just because I do want to honor people’s relationships to these characters that they have gotten to know.

That said, I have, for instance, added a new character, Jules Logan, who’s Logan’s sibling, non-binary, and so I’m finding ways to fold that in, and in future seasons, I’ll look for other ways to build out the world as well.

Belmont Cameli as Garrett, Jalen Thomas Brooks as Tucker, Antonio Cipriano as Logan, Stephen Thomas Kalyn as Dean in OFF CAMPUS

DEADLINE: There’s so much discussion about hockey and locker room talk and (toxic) masculinity and all that culture. How did you want to keep it realistic in a way but also show how these men could behave? Could you talk about navigating that reality versus maybe what could become real?

LEVY: I think you’ve hit the nail on the head, which is we do our best to honor what feels real for young men of today. But I also think young men of today are more thoughtful than maybe previous generations, and I think this show has the opportunity to demonstrate non-toxic masculinity, and Garrett does grapple with that with his dad. His dad is a prime example of toxic masculinity, and he has to find a path for himself that is more healthy and more in line with who he is, because he is not his father, but he is deeply afraid of becoming his father. I think that is, in its core, how men can push back against the toxic masculinity of previous generations.

In general, we’re always looking for ways that we can showcase and exemplify these kinds of conversations. I’m thinking of the conversation that Dean and Garrett have in the gym where they’re talking about consent, because consent is important, and it’s also sexy. And friendship conversations where Logan is encouraging Garrett to open up and tell him about the things that are going on and he doesn’t want to, because he hasn’t been shown a model of how easy it is it open up, because his dad never did.

I think showing these guys kind of struggle with it is important, but also showing the positive outcome.

The RAINN Hotline for survivors of sexual assault is 800.656.HOPE or 800-656-4673. The Suicide and Crisis Lifeline is 988 for those who may be seeking to speak with someone. Help is available.

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Dori Media Hitting Cannes With Unscripted Shows Like ‘You Show Know’

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EXCLUSIVE: Power Couple seller Dori Media is heading to Cannes with the largest unscripted slate in its history.

At MIPCOM, the Israeli company will debut the likes of games shows The Hive and You Should Know, docu-series My Hottest Years and primetime reality format New Love, which is from Power Couple maker Abot Hameiri.

Also on the slate is Paraiso Tropical, a doc exploring a mysterious Panamanian plane crash, and Seekers, which looks at humans’ search for meaning.

“We have been listening to our clients across the globe, many who are looking for affordable content that can help them break through with their local audiences and we are headed to MIPCOM with our largest slate of unscripted programming, a slate that features many new offerings that we believe can do just that,” said Dori Media Group CEO Nadav Palti.

Studio quiz show The Hive comes from and is from United Studios Productions and channels Kan 11 and Makan. The show’s USP is that knowing the right answer isn’t enough: Contestants need to know when to take a risk, when to block an opponent, and how to build a strategic play.

You Show Know is another quiz, this time from Shenhar Productions. Questions are tailored specifically to each contestant, drawing from their social media feeds, meaning they should, in theory, know the answers.

Doc series My Hottest Years comes from Drucker-Goren Communications and is for Kan 11, looking at what happens when women’s hormones change, while New Love is a dating reality show for Reshet 13. The format sees women live with a carefully-selected stranger for 72 hours, before they decide whether to stay for another three days or replace them with someone new.

Paraiso Tropical is a co-production from Apertura Films and Ajimolido Films in which filmmaker Abner Benaim reopens the case of a passenger plane that exploded over Panama, killing all 21 on board, including his under. Seekers, meanwhile, runs to six parts and follows the human experience through the eyes of an Amazonian chief, an Advaita monk, an African healer, a Hindu sage, a Native grandmother and a Buddhist psychologist. Édgar Ramírez, Riley Keough and Jamie-Lynn Sigler all feature.

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‘Ted Lasso’ Season 4 Actor Bids Farewell To Character Who Dies

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SPOILER ALERT: This post contains spoilers for Ted Lasso Season 4, Episode 9, titled “Mae Rides The Bus,” now streaming on Apple TV.

The title of the second-to-last episode of Ted Lasso Season 4 hints at a goodbye to a beloved character who has been around since the first season.

Episode 9 bids farewell to Richmond’s own Mae Green (Annette Badland) who dies doing what she loves: supporting the Lady Greyhounds at their away match against Bristol City in the stands.

“That’s what happens. You’re involved with folks, and they disappear. They go, and she loved her life,” Annette Badland told Deadline. “She made the very best of her life and really relished it. So she went, I suppose, for her, in the very best way.”

The Crown & Anchor pub owner was invited to take the team bus to the away game after she had hinted that it would be difficult for someone with her “level of seasoning” to make the two and a half hour drive. Thus, Ted (Jason Sudeikis) and Coach Beard (Brendan Hunt) invite her on the shuttle with all of the players, and they embrace Mae as one of their own on the drive.

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“I love the Lionesses, so I was thrilled when [Season 4] happened, and the girls are tremendous and effervescent and glorious to be around. The pub quiz scene took a couple of days to shoot, but that was like a tidal wave coming,” Badland said. “They are just so full of energy and life. So that was just something wonderful to be involved in, and just enhanced all the feelings and the camaraderie. And Mae couldn’t play football, wasn’t allowed to play football, I’m sure she’s had a lot of bad stuff in her life, but she just carries on and defies the odds and just keeps on pitching. That’s an excellent story to tell.”

In the below interview, Badland unpacks Mae’s legacy left on the series, transitioning from the men’s team dynamic of the first three seasons to the Lady Greyhounds and how Mae might come up in the finale episode.

DEADLINE: Did you know about this episode for Mae when you signed on for Season 4? How did you react when you found out what would happen for her in Episode 9?

ANNETTE BADLAND: No, I didn’t know, and I didn’t know till about, I suppose, maybe November. We were only an episode away filming that. I was shocked, but I’m very proud being in the show, and I admire Jason [Sudeikis]. I think the series is so successful because people smell it’s very genuine. The audience know it’s not made cynically. It’s not a product. It’s something Jason wants to say about the world and how we are, so you have to trust that.

I don’t know when I’ll die. You just don’t know. So, being told that it was going to happen quite close to it being filmed, you just have to go. ‘Well, that’s [that]. He told me in the storyline, so he started at the beginning [with] “I invite her to come, and blah blah, and she won’t drive, and then she comes to the grounds and she goes in the bus,” and I’m going, “Oh wow, this is…” and then “She passes.” [Gulps.] But hopefully that’s what will happen for the audience too.

DEADLINE: How did you want to approach the speech you gave in the locker room before the game? There’s the moment in the bus before where they’re like, “We’re gonna grill you about your whole life and everything you know. How did you approach those scenes with the end of the episode in mind? What you wanted to leave on the field, for lack of a better way to put that?

BADLAND: I think not giving in. She’s very outspoken. She’s a lioness who will defend you till the nth degree once you’ve got her heart and respect. Being an older woman, where you do become invisible, Mae’s never going to be invisible. She will not allow that to happen. I get ignored. You’ll stand at a counter, and people won’t bother, or they’ll walk into you. “You’ve had your time, move aside.” And Mae would not allow that, and was still in there pitching and relishing.

L-R: Jason Sudeikis and Annette Badland in Season 4 of 'Ted Lasso'

L-R: Jason Sudeikis and Annette Badland in Season 4 of ‘Ted Lasso’

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DEADLINE: What does it say about her that she wants to sit in the audience stands or the supporters side versus the box with Rebecca and everyone?

BADLAND: Yeah, not her people, and she might have felt constrained. “Well, I’m not going to sit and behave myself or feel the fool because I’m sitting with you.” I’ll go where the folk that really scraped together to get the money, who are dedicated, [are sitting]. Even although it was her pub, she’s not part of a hierarchy. Everybody’s judged on how they are. Just not her style. Go and be with the real fun.

DEADLINE: There’s the hint of the shares and the battle that’s going on there. And Mae has shares, and she was like protecting her patrons at the pub. Can you tease anything about how could she could leave an impact that way too on the team?

BADLAND: Well, she had a very large pile of shares. I mean, they were about “yay high” (gestures to table height she sits at.) She uses them to good effect. Her instructions are for them to be used in a particular way that is quite good.

DEADLINE: I love her relationship with Ted’s son this season too. I was hoping you could talk about working with Grant and any wisdom she maybe has left with him?

BADLAND: He is a delight. He’s a beautiful young man, and bright. We got on terribly well, and I shall miss him. Really, it was great having that element in the pub too. Another side of her. I can’t tease you with anything, I don’t think, but he knows what he’s doing now with a tea towel.

DEADLINE: Keeley’s pregnancy is revealed in 409, and I’ve heard some people talk about the cycle of life and how someone passes and then a new life comes into the world. So I was curious if you had any thoughts on those themes for episode nine?

BADLAND: Oh yes, well it’s absolutely true, isn’t it? We move along. We’re here for a very short time, and the next wave, the next group of people comes in. I’m delighted for Keeley, just delighted, and poor old Roy.

DEADLINE: This episode felt like such a great send off for Mae, but could we still see a funeral or something in the finale?

BADLAND: You could, maybe. I guess, or it’s like, “Oh well, that’s it.” [They could forget about her.]

DEADLINE: What do you think she would want as a celebration of her life? Have you thought about that at all?

BADLAND: Oh, she’d have asked for a tremendous party at The Crown and Anchor. Everyone invited. Jason did modify some of 410. We talked after he told me about her passing, and he did, because that’s how he is. He’s responsive and collaborative. So he did change some of the stuff in 10, or incorporated what we talked about. She doesn’t just [go away]. She has, not an appearance, but she is still within the context.

DEADLINE: I’m also worried-not worried, but the pub was her thing. So I hope it’s in good hands in the future.

BADLAND: So does she. Oh yes.

DEADLINE: Anthony Head gets an acknowledgement in 409, and Rupert gets his mention too. How did that all weave together with Mae also leaving? What are your thoughts on that? You had scenes with Anthony in the past.

BADLAND: He came in the pub. The darts, and we were around. He came in more than that, but that was the main one. He was a beautiful man, and he will be much missed. He was charming and funny and generous, and we’d have naughty little sort of asides. And I had wondered why we weren’t — I assumed he would be in this last [season] and didn’t know, as I think very few people knew, he was ill and just couldn’t do it.

So we will miss him, and I respect him, and I think it’s a great honor to be in the episode that is dedicated to him.

DEADLINE: How did it feel embarking on this new chapter of the show after the previous three seasons with the men’s team, and how much do you think it meant to Mae? Could you talk about that transition and leaving the show behind?

BADLAND: Well, when we finished [Season 3], we didn’t think there would be another. Jason had said, “I’ve got a three series arc, that’ll be it.” And then to go back and to take, it’s very exciting because it’s a risk, isn’t it?

A female team [is] quite quite different, and the men have come with it. The male audience have gone with it, like they do with the genuine footballers. And there’s good stories, different stories in there, different tales to tell. So, I’m absolutely thrilled that it seems, in England, certainly, to have taken off this year. People don’t know what to do. They don’t know whether to watch it episode by episode or to binge watch it. They can’t wait to binge it. So that’s thrilling, absolutely thrilling. I’ve had a great time. I’m privileged to have been part of it, and I’ll just have to be in the stands, won’t I? And see how they progress.

Or there is a film called Wonderful Life, where an angel [comes down.]

Annette Badland in 'Ted Lasso' Season 4

Annette Badland in ‘Ted Lasso’ Season 4

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DEADLINE: I could see them incorporating it. I love that movie. We watch it every Christmas. She would be such a great Clarence-esque character.

BADLAND: Yeah, popping up in someone’s conscience and tearing them off a strip or whatever. Or giving them information.

DEADLINE: I feel like Beard may need some of that for some reason. Because we don’t see his reaction, at the end of the episode. We see it’s Rebecca’s telling Ted, you don’t see the words pass, but just from his actions, you know that she’s died. But yeah, I guess curious to see what will happen with him. I love that idea. I hope you’ve pitched that and that it comes to light in the future.

BADLAND: As soon as he said she passed, I said, “Oh, can I come back as an angel?” So we did talk about it.

But he doesn’t do the predictable, does he? That’s what’s so delightful.

DEADLINE: That’s all I had, unless you wanted to add anything else about what fans come up to you and say when they recognize you from the show, or any last words before we go.

BADLAND: Ah, encountering them is terrific, and I’m very proud to have been in this because I still get messages from people saying, you know, things like “My mom’s very ill with cancer. She comes home from her treatment. We all pile on the bed. We put Ted on. We believe. We laugh.” So that’s a just tremendous thing to have in the world, and to be connected to it, and feel you’ve done that for folk. No bad thing, eh?

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‘Ted Lasso’ Pays Tribute To Anthony Head In Episode 409

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SPOILER ALERT: The story includes details about Episodes 408 and 409 of Apple TV’s Ted Lasso.

A very emotional Ted Lasso episode that included the death of a beloved original character, The Crown & Anchor pub owner Mae Green, played by Annette Badland, also acknowledged the death of the series’ popular recurring cast member Anthony Head, who played the villainous Rupert Mannion in the first three seasons.

A card, In Memory of Anthony Head, ran at the end of Season 4’s penultimate episode, “Mae Rides the Bus.” (You can see it below.)

“He was a beautiful man, and he will be much missed,” Badland told Deadline during an interview about Mae’s shocking death, reminiscing about famous Season 1 darts scene between Rupert and Jason Sudeikis’ Ted Lasso at the pub. “He was charming and funny and generous, and we’d have naughty little sort of asides.

Ted Lasso was always expected to pay tribute to the veteran British actor who died on June 1 at the age of 72. When that was not done in the Season 4 premiere, many thought that Head would be honored in an episode he appears in as the season had wrapped production in January, months before his passing.

“I assumed he would be in this last [season], and didn’t know, as I think very few people knew, he was ill and just couldn’t do it,” Badland said.

Barely referenced in the first seven episodes, Head’s Rupert, ex-owner of AFC Richmond and ex-husband of the club’s current owner Rebecca (Hannah Waddingham), came back into the forefront in Episode 8, when Higgins (Jeremy Swift), with the help of Mae and her “Follow the anger” advice, deducted that Rupert had been secretly buying shares to regain control of Richmond.

That remained a story thread in Episode 9 until the surprise twist at the end that revealed it was not Rupert but Tracey Ullman’s Zelda Southport who was behind the shady operation and on the verge of becoming a majority owner of the club.

The move raised questions whether Ted Lasso had pivoted from Rupert to Zelda as the culprit — and away from a potential Rebecca vs. Rupert battle for control of Richmond — in light of Head’s death (or leading into it). According to sources, no Season 4 storylines were changed following Head’s passing, there had been no formal plans for Head to be in Season 4 and no official approach to him about appearing.

It is unclear whether that was related to Head’s health issues which had been kept private. (His cause of death was listed by his daughters as complications due to pneumonia.) Head’s last acting credits were Season 3 of Ted Lasso, which came out in 2023, and the 2024 Prime Video movie Upgraded.

It is a longstanding TV tradition for characters to mirror the death of the actors who played them by passing away in the show. Because of the timing of Head’s passing after Season 4 had been completed, that will likely happen in Season 5.

The eccentric ultra-wealthy entrepreneur and sports investor Zelda — a polarizing and largely disliked new character introduced in Season 4 — had long been suspected by fans to be the season’s secret villain.

Zelda, who had become involved in Richmond’s women’s team with Keeley’s (Juno Temple) enthusiastic support over Rebecca’s serious reservations, was present when Higgins told Rebecca in Season 8 that Rupert was behind the buyouts. In fact, Zelda looked rather nervous for a moment when Higgins announced that he had solved the mystery before he dropped Rupert’s name and she chimed in with “Never underestimate the power of anger as fuel.” (We will likely find out more about her motives in the Season 4 finale.)

In Episode 9, Zelda also happened to be there any time Higgins and Rebecca discussed the matter. That included him telling his boss in the office that Rupert’s lawyers were “denying knowing anything about people selling shares but since there has been a pause in buying” and that Rebecca won’t lose control of the club regardless, as long as the Milk sisters, who no one had been able to get ahold of, don’t sell their shares. The three also were together on board the Richmond private jet when Higgins told Rebecca that even without the Milk sisters, the mystery buyer they believed to be Rupert can get 49% of the shares.

That may prove a moot point as Zelda was later seen giving her henchman, who had located the sisters, instructions to go as high as needed to secure their shares.

With the mystery solved, the producers felt it made sense to run an end card honoring Head in Season 9. Rupert had his Season 4 moment in 408 and 409, so paying tribute to Head following the close of his character’s two-episode arc felt most appropriate. (Running the card at the end of Episode 8 likely also would’ve spoiled the surprise that it wasn’t Rupert who was buying the shares.)

Head recurred on the first two seasons of Ted Lasso, becoming a series regular in Season 3. His character Rupert, Rebecca’s vindictive and philandering former husband who lost Richmond to her in the divorce, was the original three-season installment’s main antagonist. He subsequently bought another Premiere League team — West Ham United — and recruited Ted’s kitman turned assistant coach Nathan Shelley (Nick Mohammed) to work with him, before losing it in the Season 3 finale.

“We will miss him, I respect him, and it’s a great honor to be in the episode that is dedicated to him,” Badland said. Here is a video of her comments.

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