
Michael Johnston stars as Bear, Megan Lawless as Sarah and Cooper Tomlinson as Ian in Obsession.
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[This story contains spoilers from Obsession.]
Sometimes, people miss what’s right in front of them.
In Curry Barker‘s Obsession, Bear (Michael Johnston) uses a One Wish Willow and wishes for his longtime crush, Nikki (Inde Navarrette), to love him more than anyone else in the world. The wish comes true, but at the cost of tragic consequences.
One of those comes when Nikki kills Megan Lawless’ Sarah after Bear sneaks out to talk to her in her car. While the scene shown in the final film is already brutal, Sarah’s death was originally more graphic in the cut that premiered at the Toronto International Film Festival in September. What made it even more tragic was that Sarah had feelings for Bear that she was seemingly about to vocalize — and then it was too late. “Sarah would have been the ideal choice. I think they would have just been perfect for each other,” Johnston previously told The Hollywood Reporter.
Now, as the hit film enters its second successful weekend at the box office, Lawless speaks with THR about Sarah going “out in an iconic way,” what could’ve happened if Nikki never showed up to the car that night, Nikki changing her appearance to look like Sarah in the ending and who she believes the movie’s villain actually is.
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One lesson from this film is to be upfront and honest about your feelings. Bear, of course, was too nervous to tell Nikki that he liked her. But Sarah also seemed too nervous to tell Bear how she felt. If Sarah had been honest from the beginning, do you think that would’ve changed anything?
That is such a good question that I’ve never thought about. Honestly, I think Bear was so caught up in his feelings for Nikki that I’m not sure it would have changed much. I think he still would have had tunnel vision towards Nikki. But I would have loved it if Sarah did that, because I feel like she’s got it in her to speak her truth to Bear. And I guess when she does, it’s too late. But if they had that conversation in the car earlier, maybe we could have avoided everything that ensued. (Laughs.) It would have been better if everyone had just come clean about their feelings earlier than they actually did.
When I spoke with Michael, he told me that Sarah and Bear would have been a great match, and she would have been the clear choice. What is your reaction to that? Do you agree?
I totally agree with that. Bear obviously needs someone that would reciprocate his feelings, and I also feel like you can tell from our dialogue that we have this depth and connection. Bear isn’t in love with an idea of me, like he is with Nikki. He knows real sides of me, and I know real sides of him. Yeah, I think we would have made a great match. I wish we could see what would happen.
The party scene was one of the creepiest, but also funniest moments, with Nikki reading her poem, and Sarah, Ian and Bear’s reaction to it, especially when she pulls your chair out. What was the atmosphere like on set during that scene?
From my perspective, I was getting over being sick, and it was an overnight shoot, and we were all wearing tiny little clothes. I’m wearing my little dress, and Nikki’s wearing her little outfit, and I remember us all being a little chilly. There’s pictures of us behind the scenes wearing big throw blankets over ourselves. But it was also really fun because it wasn’t often that we had so many of us on set at the same time. And all of the extras in that scene were also friends of Curry and Cooper, and friends of ours. Skyler Zurn, the casting director, was there. We all got to be bumming it out together behind the scenes of that, and when we were filming it, we didn’t take that super seriously. I love the comedic elements of that scene because we all understood them in the moment while we were filming, and we were getting a kick out of everything that was happening. I remember when Inde was doing that monologue, we knew the absurdity of it. Our reactions are genuine because it is so absurd, but once the cameras cut, we can fall into the humor of it more. Rather than when the cameras are rolling, it’s our concern, our reactions are more serious, and then once the cameras cut, it’s like, “Dang, what the hell was that?” (Laughs.)

Michael Johnston stars as Bear, Megan Lawless as Sarah and Cooper Tomlinson as Ian in Obsession.
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Was that your first time seeing the freaky Nikki version of her?
It was my second time. The first time was when I visited set on some random day and Inde was performing one of those last scenes on the couch at the very end of the movie, where she’s screaming. That was absurd. I was so impressed by her because, up until that point, I hadn’t ever seen her perform Nikki. So, I was really happy seeing that, because I was like, “OK, this movie is gonna come together now that I’ve seen what Nikki looks like on camera. This movie’s really gonna work because Inde is so stellar.”
Sarah also has a brutal death scene. What was your reaction to finding out that your character was going to die like that?
I was happy about it, because you want to go out in an iconic way. Everyone dies, and my death really kicks things off well. You will not forget my death scene, and I was glad it was so momentous in the storyline and nuts, because I knew it would stick with audiences. Also, the scene in the car right before is so beautiful. When Michael and I were rehearsing it, I loved the dialogue. It felt so real and raw. An actor’s favorite thing is to perform a scene like that. Michael and I had the best time, and to know it was followed up by my brutal death was even more spectacular, because I knew it gave weight to both sides of that scene, the death and the conversation before. So I just feel honored to have such an iconic death scene in this film that no one will forget. (Laughs.)
I heard that it was also one of the funniest days on set, too?
I totally stand by that. That was my favorite day on set. It was just a little ridiculous, if you take a step back and you see everything that’s going on behind the scenes, because Inde was wearing this crazy wig that had a helmet underneath it, basically something to protect her head when she bashed into the glass. She looked so funny, it was just hilarious. She had to commit to running into the glass as fast as she could, and charging at me. We had to play out this thing that felt a little silly, but with 100 percent commitment, as actors do. And we didn’t have many tries, we had two takes to get it right. They were like, “Don’t actually hold her head hard or push her head in. We can’t do that for safety reasons,” so she was holding her hand gently on the back of my head, and then I was miming, slamming my head into the brick, and that whole sequence is just funny. There was a doll version of myself that they placed in, and bashed the headed next. It’s peak actors acting, that feels silly, but you need to commit. (Laughs.)
Originally, what premiered at TIFF was a more violent version of that that scene and what would’ve had a NC-17 rating. What was it like for you to see that reaction since it’s your character?
It’s so funny you asked that, because the reaction was completely unexpected to me. I’m sitting here like, “Aw, poor Sarah gets brutally killed.” The whole theater at TIFF erupted into cheering at that moment. I was like, “Why is everyone cheering? Ouch!” (Laughs.) I did not expect everyone to be cheering. I thought people would be crying, maybe. (Laughs.) But I think it’s because the moment is so iconic. These horror fans, that’s their bread and butter. They just go bananas for something like that. And that version had me in ADR originally. Curry wanted me to make gurgling noises that he would add into that scene, after my head is actually kicked in. So, you’d hear Sarah gurgling, like she’s still alive, and they took that out when they edited it to not be NC-17, but it was brutal.
There’s a lot of discourse about who the true villain is in this movie. A lot of people are saying Bear, but there’s also some debate about whether everyone in this film is a villain. We have Ian secretly hooking up with Nikki and not telling Bear. And then Sarah is friends with Nikki, but she obviously likes Bear. Do you think it’s a little more nuanced about who the villain is? Do you see a clear villain?
I think it’s good to think about everything from a nuanced perspective and to have discourse about this. But obviously, I’m biased; I am Team Sarah till I die. (Laughs.) I don’t think Sarah is the villain. I mean, if you really put yourself in Sarah’s shoes, she and Nikki have this friendship, and Nikki has been telling her, “I’ll talk to Bear and tell him you like him. I know you like Bear. You guys would make a great match. You should go for that.” If your best friend was gunning for you to pursue your love interest, and then one day there’s a flip of the switch, and they’re dating, I would be so offended! I remember talking about it with Curry. From the moment they start dating, it irritates me, because my best friend is now dating the guy I like out of nowhere, when she had never expressed interest before? It feels like a slap in the face, and I feel like Sarah tries to go about it in the best way possible, being honest, that she doesn’t like it, and that it feels like a betrayal, in a sense. But also not overstep and tell them what they should do. I think she holds off for as long as possible in telling her friends, “You can do this and can’t do that.” But she can also be honest that it doesn’t seem healthy. Ultimately, in that car scene, she really knows that’s the time you need to step in, like Sarah knows it’s time to step in after seeing what she saw at the party, now I need to hold my friends accountable because whatever is going on is not OK. This is not healthy for anyone involved. Of any character in this film, Sarah is not the villain… I do think Bear’s the villain! (Laughs.)
What do you think would have happened if Nikki hadn’t come up to the car and interrupted Sarah and Bear?
I love this question. I’d like to think that Bear would have seen what was right in front of him the whole time. I don’t think I’d necessarily want them to kiss or break any boundaries. Obviously, from Sarah’s perspective, they are in a relationship still. I wouldn’t want to impose on that in any way, but for Bear to wake up and be like, “Sarah, this is not healthy, whatever Nikki and I are doing. And I appreciate you being honest with me about your feelings. Let me break things off with Nikki.” In a normal world, where the One Wish Willow doesn’t exist and Nikki isn’t obsessed and that would lead to disastrous consequences, that would be the ideal scenario. (Laughs.) Maybe they would have kissed, but I don’t think I really want that personally, because I think it goes against everything Sarah believes.

Inde Navarrette at the end of Obsession.
At the end, it’s so interesting that Nikki starts to change her appearance to look like Sarah by drawing on her tattoos and wearing her dress. Whose idea was that and what do you think about how he’s almost trying to become Sarah or mirror her in a way?
That was always written in the script, so it was Curry’s idea. It’s crazy because you see my dead body there naked and it’s because Nikki’s wearing my clothes. She’s even smoking the joint. I think that is such an eerie touch, and it continues to add to the theme of this unhealthy obsession that was against Nikki’s own agency, but also an unhealthy obsession in romantic situations: You will change yourself to appease the person you want and that’s not healthy either. So, adding in that layer to be like, “Don’t do this! Don’t try to become someone else. Don’t try to become whatever they want to be.” I think that is a nice touch at the end.
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Obsession is now playing in theaters. Check out all of The Hollywood Reporter‘s coverage here, including a Curry Barker profile and spoiler interviews with Inde Navarrette and Michael Johnston.
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Aster and his partner Lars Knudsen will produce through their Square Peg banner. While the plot is being kept under wraps, there some have speculated that it’s about a doctor who operates on an internet-famous person, others say it’s sci-fi romance, others have said it’s more of a traditional drama for Aster but as of now there still has been no consensus on the movie’s details according to insiders.
Deadline first reported earlier this year that this would be Aster’s next film after the director had taken his time deciding on what would be his follow-up to Eddington. Once he had declared it as his next film, it didn’t take along for stars to start chasing the project, but Aster had one name in mind to lead it and tapped Johansson to star.
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That said, it always felt this would be his first project following that break and recently declared it with negotiations starting last week. If a deal closes, the plan is to shoot the film later this year.
Elordi has had as good a stretch over the past 12 months as any actor in town going back to that Oscar-nominated role in Frankenstein that bowed last fall. He followed that up with Warner Bros. with Wuthering Heights, the hit adaptation where he co-starred opposite Margot Robbie and also had his return to Euphoria, that bowed this past spring.
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An updated version of the truth is out there — and streaming on Disney+ come Aug. 14.
Almost 20 years after releasing the second film in his TV and movie franchise, The X-Files creator Chris Carter has recut The X-Files: I Want to Believe (now titled The X-Files: I Want to Believe – Vrach Frankenshteyn) to give his devoted fanbase the version he set out to make. Leaning harder into the standalone mystery, a contemporary retelling of Dr. Frankenstein, the new version amps up the horror elements that 20th Century Fox and the MPA wanted removed from the film in 2008 to give it a PG-13 rating.
“Unlike most director’s cuts, I didn’t throw in everything but the kitchen sink,” says Carter. “It’s actually shorter than the original. I hope it finds a wider audience, and I hope I give fans what they wanted.”
Since the release of the original I Want to Believe, Carter has twice revisited The X-Files. Revivals in 2016 and 2018 are canonically regarded as the 10th and 11th seasons of the original series starring David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson as special agents Fox Mulder and Dana Scully that ended in 2002. Speaking earlier in August, Carter says the trio still isn’t finished telling their story — though when and how they return depends a lot on what Ryan Coogler does with his take on the material. (The Sinners filmmaker shot a pilot for an update of The X-Files for Hulu earlier this summer.) Carter also spoke about sparring with executives back in the day, his skepticism over those Congressional hearings about UFOs and his unique relationship with his very vocal audience.
Take me back to 2007-2008, when I’m assuming you were in post-production on this film. At what point did it become apparent that the film that you wanted to make and the film the studio wanted to release were different films?
It was the first screening for the studio in a little theater at 20th Century Fox. There was, let me call it, mild outrage that we had not delivered a PG-13 movie. It was a tense discussion, and we agreed to cut it down to the version that we’d apparently promised them. When we handed the new version over to the MPA, they said, “This isn’t a PG-13 movie.” We cut it back a second time. For me, trying to do a scary X-Files, this wasn’t what we had set out. What’s ironic is that the PG-13 standards for a movie were less permissive than the standards and practices for a television show at the time. So my feeling is that the movie became a relationship heavy movie. The scares were second to that. I wanted to go back and put in the scares.
You have worked in the entertainment industry for some time. Looking at the tense back and forths and creative concessions you’ve made in your career, where does the original version of this film rank?
It’s a movie in itself. (Laughs.) I’ll tell you a funny story. Glen Morgan and James Wong had done an episode called “Home” [in 1996]. It’s probably it’s one of the favorite, if not the most favorite, episodes of the show. It’s a very scary episode, but this was in season four. By that time, the studio had left us alone. I don’t know how we snuck it past the censors, but it aired and I got a screaming call from an executive the next day that the episode would never air again … that we had gone too far. All of a sudden, all eyes were on us. It affected the show going forward. We were held to a much stricter standard.
So tell me how this happened. It isn’t often that a studio pays someone to release a directors cut these days.
I was talking to Steve Asbell at 20th Century Studios about something else. I asked if they’d ever considered doing a director’s cut of I Want to Believe. He said, “No, but let’s talk about it.” It was as easy as that. I did not have to put my own money behind this. This was a labor of love when Frank Spotnitz and I set out to do this way back when. So I knew we had a movie that no one ever got to experience. And I think the production values are so rich. We filmed it almost entirely in a very forbidding environment, all snow and ice. I went through nine pair of boots and my feet were never warm. And there’s a message in the movie, beyond “I want to believe,” and it’s “Don’t give up.” It sounds like something that could go on a Nike T-shirt. It’s simple. But that’s what it’s all about. Mulder doesn’t give up on the case. Scully doesn’t give up on Mulder or the young child she’s trying to heal in the picture.
I believe you remain in touch with Gillian Anderson and David Duchovny. Have you spoken with them about the new cut of the movie?
When the original was released, I went out and promoted it. The studio didn’t promote it, so it I felt it was never really seen by a wider audience. X-Files fans went to it because they are the greatest. The movie made money. We made it for less than $25 million. And I haven’t had an opportunity to show the director’s cut to Gillian. But I showed it to David, who was very pleased. High praise.
You mention fans of the franchise. I spent a little time on X-Files Reddit before speaking with you, and you seem to be uniquely engaged with that community. Is that fair to say? And have you found that to be a healthy habit?

David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson The X-Files: I Want to Believe.
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Definitely. And, yes, it is. We had we had a 30th anniversary reunion in Minnesota, and I had kids come up to me, kids whose parents didn’t even know each other when the X-Files premiered and tell me they’re fans of the show. It’s amazing that the show has lasted and is as popular as it is, these 30-odd years later.
Fan feedback was so different three decades ago than when you released the new seasons on Fox in 2016 and 2018. It’s certainly different from now. Do you engage in with the dialogue even when it’s more critical?
Sure, serve it up. I’m open to criticism. I’m open to applause, boos. Give it to me. We’ve always relished the feedback. There’s someone who used to be the head of the X-Files online group. She was very critical of some of my work in the last reboot. I just took it on the chin. And I got criticism from someone important to the show who said that I didn’t give the audience what they wanted. I think I didn’t give the audience what they expected. And that is left to come. There are four episodes and the last two reboots that were all part of a bigger plan that I hope to reveal to X-Files fans if and when we should do another reboot.
I always bristle at this idea that audiences deserve to get their way even if it’s not the creators’ intent.
There’s a point at which you need to deliver on a promise. And I wanted to deliver more than the promise. I wanted to give them what they least expected. I know that sounds somewhat confusing, but I had a bigger plan and it all made sense. It will make sense, and so hang with me.
What can you tell me about the bigger plan?
There was a big revelation at the end of the season finale in season 11 that Scully is pregnant. Some people were horrified, outraged. They hated me. It was big. And once again, as I say, this is taken on the chin because I have a bigger idea in mind. I think that time will tell.
If you had your druthers, what would be next — another season of the series? A movie?
I don’t know. The thing that was unexpected, but now highly anticipated, is the Ryan Coogler reboot. I don’t want to do anything to compete with that. I don’t want to do anything to get in the way of that. I don’t want to play off of that. I want to continue to tell and finish the story arc that I have in mind. That said, I’m anxiously awaiting his version. My name is on it as executive producer, but I have done exactly nothing. I am, like everyone else out there, excited about what it may be.
It’s not really a reboot, per se. Danielle Deadwyler and Hamish Patel are not playing Scully and Mulder. So, in success, do you see a world in which this new show and a future iteration of your original story can exist contemporaneously?
My choice was not to read the script, because I wanted to watch it like everyone else. So, it really depends on his vision.
Since the last season of the X-Files aired, we’ve had some declassified files. We’ve had some hearings. We’ve had some whistleblowers. There’s been a lot of dialogue about the possibility that extraterrestrials have visited the earth or at least our atmosphere. You’ve said in the past that, like Mulder, you identify with that idea of “I want to believe.” Has this info dump changed the way you think about aliens?
No. There’s been a lot of talk, a lot of testimony. There isn’t a whole lot of evidence. Next to none. Is this another smoke screen? Is there a category that is above top secret that even those in the highest echelons don’t know about it? Are we keeping that secret to prevent a kind of anarchy and pandemonium in the world if they find out that we are not alone? I don’t know. But once again, this is interesting storytelling material.

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Has all of that gotten your wheels turning on your own story?
Yeah, obviously. And people like Steven Spielberg, it got his wheels turning too. I saw Disclosure Day. He’s my favorite director in my lifetime. He can do no wrong.
Ok, this is a mild spoiler, but it’s a 20-year-old movie so I think it’s fine. There’s a sequence in the closing credits of I Want to Believe that that’s an aerial shot Mulder in Scully in a boat in some tropical locale. Right before it fades to black, they both look up and they wave to the camera. What was the intention there originally? And what was the intention to keep it in this time, given how much darker the film was?
Apart from Mulder’s red swimsuit, which only the hard core fans picked up on, the choice was simply environmental. We had just shot through a long, cold winter. I thought the viewers, the filmmakers and, in particular, Mulder and Scully needed a trip to a tropical locale and the warmth that that provided.
At the time, sitting in the theater, I interpreted this as the last I was ever going to see of the characters and they were waving goodbye.
No, they were waving, “Thank you for watching our movie.” Yes, it was breaking the fourth wall, but of course you could do that on a credit sequence.
I guess I’m a soft-core fan. What’s the red swimsuit?
There’s a scene in season two, where Mulder’s in a red speedo. It lit the nascent internet on fire. For hardcore fans, it’s one of those iconic scenes from the show.
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