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Director Jane Schoenbrun Interview — Counting Crows, Michael Bay
[Editor’s note: The following interview contains spoilers for “Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma”]
There are probably a lot of IndieWire readers (and writers) who can relate to the desire to get an A+ on the test of whatever we’re doing in our adult lives. Certainly, on their first two features, Jane Schoenbrun wanted to ace the exam of directing film, working for months on way more than just a shot list.
Among the prep documents Schoenbrun utilizes is the daily “cheat sheet” that they and their script coordinator, Sepi Mashiahof, put together. This is a printout of reminders of how each scene being shot that day fits into the overall puzzle, with sections on performance, thematic and aesthetic rules, what’s important about sound and music, how even the smallest inserts are part of a larger game, or goal, for the scene.
Staying hyper-organized and detail-oriented helps the “We’re All Going to the World’s Fair” and “I Saw the TV Glow” director make art that feels intentional in every moment. But with their third feature, “Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma,” Schoenbrun also wanted to push the bounds of what movies they make, how those movies feel, and what they say. That meant studying just as hard for the test, but embracing messier answers.
“ If you’re building a filmography — and I think it’s also like something of the self-consciousness of being a trans filmmaker and forever being in this kind of no-win bargain of, ‘Yeah, I am trans, and I’m making personal work, as I think most filmmakers should. Of course the films are going to be engaged with my transness,’ and also, it just gives people such an excuse to pigeonhole you as doing one thing,” Schoenbrun told IndieWire on an episode of the Filmmaker Toolkit Podcast.
It’s not that Schoenbrun let go of their cheat sheets for “Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma,” it’s that they wanted to put their hyper-focused perspective to a story with a different, definitely more affirming tone and perspective, while still playing with the language of horror — and, in particular, the glorious, campy excess of the ‘80s slasher film.
“Trans is one identity that I have and artist is another, and you always want to be expanding what you feel allowed to do,” Schoenbrun said. “My conception of how to have a long filmography that expresses truths is to never allow oneself to be put into a box, even in one’s own mind. So this film — it was a really empowering experience for me to take the risk of maybe falling on my head by being like, ‘I don’t think anyone is wanting me to make a goofy sex comedy after ‘TV Glow,’ but I have to.’”
What lies at the center of the Venn Diagram of goofy sex comedy, earnest exploration of art and intimacy, slasher franchises, and hyper-detailed-oriented filmmaking is what lies in the literal middle of “Camp Miasma” itself: a killing spree sequence set to the Counting Crows’ “Long December.” Of course.

“[We did] probably like 100-plus hours in prep just on that sequence. You’ve got to shot list it. We went to each location and walked it and timed to the song second by second and figured out how the camera moves would organize around themselves to feel seamless. I love watching it now but for a while I couldn’t watch it because it was too close to the truth,” Schoenbrun said. “Once we had the bare bones, it just became, like, interdepartmental hell.”
Hell is sometimes a series of conference rooms meetings, where the SFX and VFX teams need to talk about how the work of faking maimings, decapitations, and buckets of fake blood are going to be shared. The costume department need to understand how many duplicates of each outfit they need and how messed up to make each. Everyone needs to weigh in on how a rolling, talking head is going to look seamless.
The stunt team not only needed to figure out the hero choreography, but how to throw 20 to 30 extras around the space. And a lot of the work, and a 60-pound camera rig, fell on the shoulders of Jack Haven, playing Little Death, who had to dance out the sequence’s choreography in a way that draws viewers into the catharsis of the kill spree while also looking effortless.

“It was one of those all-time great, not even movie moments, life moments. With a shot that ambitious, it takes five hours to get ready to even film and then how many hours do we have left in this day? How are Jack’s shoulders doing? It was really fourth-quarter Super Bowl touchdown energy, where what was very clearly the last time we could do this was the one,” Schoenbrun said. “Not that the others were bad, but this was awe-inspiring. It’s like watching that Super Bowl moment of everything went right at the last minute after a ton of hard work. But even hard work can’t guarantee it.”
The best that hard work can do, perhaps, is make you ready for the moment when the movie rises up from the bottom of the lake of its own volition, and asserts itself. “The joy and the high of it is everyone there is chasing glory and the film is chasing joy in the same way, and it came together so beautifully. And thank you to Adam Duritz, obviously, as well,” Schoenbrun said.
“Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma” is now playing in theaters.
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‘Scrubs’ Adds Keyla Monterroso Mejia As Nurse In Season 2 Of ABC Show
EXCLUSIVE: Scrubs is staffing up for Season 2. Keyla Monterroso Mejia (The Studio, Abbott Elementary) is joining the ABC comedy series as a recurring guest star.
She will play Mimi, Turk’s (Donald Faison) new surgical nurse. A bit quirky with some sass, she is a high-energy and loyal assisting hand for the surgeons.
Mimi is joining Sacred Heart amid some turnover, which includes the departure of charge nurse Raymond, played by X Mayo.
The Scrubs reboot had been set up in a way that all cast except returning stars Zach Braff (John “J.D.” Dorian), Faison (Christopher “Turk” Turk) and Sarah Chalke (Elliot Reid) had been recurring. That is changing in Season 2 when Ava Bunn, who plays one of the new interns, Sam Tosh, is being promoted to series regular alongside Braff, Faison and Chalke.
In Season 2, J.D., Turk and Elliot have leveled up from interns to icons at Sacred Heart. Now, the respected doctors inspire the next generation while balancing the ups and downs of working in a hospital. Together with characters new and old, they are navigating this next chapter with laughter, heart and some surprises along the way.
The original series’ creator Bill Lawrence serves as executive producer on the revival via his Doozer Productions alongside the company’s Jeff Ingold and Liza Katzer as well as showrunner Aseem Batra and stars Braff, Faison and Chalke. Scrubs is produced by 20th Television, a part of Disney Television Studios. The series will return to ABC on Wednesdays Sept. 30 and stream next day on Hulu.
Mejia, known for her arc as Maria Sofia Estrada on Larry David’s HBO series Curb Your Enthusiasm, has been keeping busy recurring on several high-profile comedies, including as Seth Rogen’s harried assistant, Petra, on Apple TV’s Emmy-winning The Studio and as chaotic teacher’s aide Ashley on ABC’s Abbott Elementary.
She will next be seen recurring on the upcoming second season of Apple TV’s Bad Monkey opposite Vince Vaughn and the third season of of Netflix’s Nobody Wants This. The casting on Bad Monkey may have paved the way to her joining Scrubs as both series come from creator Bill Lawrence.
Mejia is repped by UTA, Artists First and Jackoway Austen Tyerman.
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‘Deli Boys’ Canceled After 2 Seasons at Hulu and Onyx Collective
Hulu and Onyx Collective crime comedy series “Deli Boys” will not return after two seasons at the streamer, TheWrap has learned.
The comedy series averaged a 98% approval rating from critics on Rotten Tomatoes, but it did not reach a wide enough audience to score a third season. Season 2 of the comedy series concluded in May.
“Deli Boys” starred Asif Ali, Saagar Shaikh, and Poorna Jagannathan. “Saturday Night Live” alum Fred Armisen joined the cast as a series regular for Season 2 with Andrew Rannells as a supporting cast member. Kumail Nanjiani, Lilly Singh, Robin Thede guest starred in Season 2 of series with “Queer Eye”s Tan France returning.
More to come…
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‘Abbott Elementary’ Director Randall Einhorn on Phillies Crossover
Director Randall Einhorn has shot every kind of TV show from “The Office” to “Fargo” to “The Muppets.” But his work on “Abbott Elementary” set the visual language of the ABC series for a very specific purpose. Just like the good teachers of Philadelphia’s most (in)famous elementary school, Einhorn, his fellow directors, and the show’s cinematographers and camera team do not want viewers to be passengers, passively receiving information.
They want us to be participants.
Creating a lighthearted, participatory visual style often means visuals that have to strike a balance: depicting the “Abbott” teachers in a clean, cinematic way that emphasizes the everyday heroism of teaching as a vocation and also making frames messy, or slyly reacting with the camera, making the audience lean in.
“It is that fine balance of making [the shot] look caught and making it look good,” Einhorn told IndieWire. “What I always say when I’m directing — I want the audience leaning in when they can’t see something well enough. The reason they can’t see something well enough is not an accident. It’s because I want them paying attention and leaning in so that when there’s something really delicious that does come along and appears [in camera], it’s very savory.”
This is hard enough on the normal “Abbott” sets, where every light has been intentionally placed, and the whole environment is controlled and optimized for filming. But when “Abbott Elementary” takes field trips, which have only gotten more ambitious over the course of the Quinta Brunson show’s five seasons, it becomes a whole other beast. Or whatever species of fauna the Phillie Phanatic is.

Indeed, Episode 4 of Season 5, “Ballgame,” involved a lot of shooting at the Phillies’ stadium of Citizens Bank Park, both on an actual game day and an off-day where the show needed to capture 14 pages of dialogue while they could still, somehow, control the sound. Einhorn, the producing director of “Abbott Elementary,” preps top-down schematics of everything in his episodes to sketch out how the cameras can interact with the characters and not see each other. But now he needed to do that with extremely fixed set conditions, changing weather conditions, and about 400 extras.
“We had three wedges [of seats] because we have three cameras. So we had to cover a fair bit of area with people,” Einhorn said. “I shot all the dialogue pieces and everything that was supposed to be happening on the non-game day, but [the characters] are also reacting to what’s happening on the field. So I’m whipping down to what’s happening on the field, hoping tomorrow that that does actually happen.”

Einhorn had 70 planned whips to connect the Off Day and Game Day footage for the hijinks of “Abbott” crew showing up to a Teacher Appreciation game at Citizens Bank Park. There ended up being 140 times that Einhorn and his team whip all the cameras between what was happening with them in the stands and what was meant to be happening on the field, or up to the Fanavision that Ava (Janelle James) will stop at nothing to get her and boyfriend O’shon (Matthew Law) on the Kiss Cam.
Of course, what actually happened on Game Day was Phillies’ star Kyle Schwarber, set to have a little cameo in the episode, hit four home runs. “ What the hell?” Einhorn joked. “But you could see it was very real. [The reactions] went back to Sheryl Lee Ralph, and her eyes are crazed, you know? She’s a great actor, but this was real. She was like, ‘Yeah!’ It was [her being] a Phillies fan, and it was really, really fun to see.”

Einhorn had rehearsed Schwarber before the game; and then after the four homers, he came back on the field and the “Abbott” crew had to shoot out his scene — nearly two and a half pages with the full show ensemble, 10 characters plus entrances and exits — in half an hour because the sprinklers were about to come on. “All of this is happening whether we’re ready for it or not,” Einhorn said.
But the somewhat guerrilla nature of the shoot enhances the things that help make the style of “Abbott Elementary” such a fun one. “We were really far away from our characters, but that’s also a look that I really like. It gives you that feeling that you’re privy to something that maybe you shouldn’t be privy to. It makes hearing what they say and seeing what they do just that little bit more delicious,” Einhorn said.
And after all the planning and all the logistics and all the shifting cloud cover, it makes the spontaneous moments of magic all the more special. “This was really, really difficult. I’ve never had to do 14 pages in a day with 10 characters on location. It makes you pay attention, and it takes a village,” Einhorn said. “But sometimes — our camera operators are so good. There’s one shot. Kyle Schwarber hits this home run, boom, and Jeremiah [Smith], our camera op, gets that, goes over to the bell ringing, and then to the Fanavision, and then we’re back to our cast. It’s like,‘Yeah. Thanks, man. That’s a great shot.’”
“Abbott Elementary” is streaming on Hulu.
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