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‘House Of The Dragon’s Benjamin Evan Ainsworth On Season 3, Episode 6
SPOILER ALERT: This story contains details from episode 6 of House of the Dragon on HBO.
With only two episodes left of the third season of HBO’s House of the Dragon, the pieces are falling in to place for Ormund Hightower (James Norton) as Daeron Targaryen (Benjamin Evan Ainsworth) watches in the wings.
In the first half of the season, Targaryen kept his guard up and was mindful of his actions in front of his captor, fearing harm may come to him by Hightower if he mades any missteps. On Sunday’s episode, he is finally able to tell someone these fears as his uncle, Ser Gwayne Hightower, vistits Tumbleton to give updates on the war throughout Westeros.
Daeron makes it clear to his uncle that he has only been following Ormund’s orders and agreeing with his decisions for self-preservation, not because what Ormund is doing is right. He also lets it be known to Gwayne that while Ormund tells him all this is being done so Daeron can take his seat on the Iron Throne, he is very aware that the chances of becoming king one day are highly unlikely.
The episode also features a failed assassination attempt on Ormund by Rhaenyra that is thwarted by Gwayne. The scene ends with a number of dead bodies and also shows Gwayne and Daeron how Ormund feels about lost limbs and blood as he vomits in front of them.
Ainsworth sat down with Deadline to discuss this week’s episode, including if his character admires some of the schemes Ormund is plotting, his first season on the show, and whether there is more drama to come in Tumbleton before the season comes to an end.
DEADLINE: Congrats on the first season Ben, how are you finding it so far?
BENJAMIN EVAN AINSWORTH: Well, it’s been it’s been an honor, really. I was a huge fan of Game of Thrones and the first two seasons of Dragon, so I kind of came into the audition process as a fan. So when it came to doing the audition, it was like, the coolest thing ever in itself, but now to be here, having wrapped and watching these episodes come out and seeing the reception, it has been kind of like a whirlwind, but a dream come true.
DEADLINE: So the first five episodes, it’s pretty clear Daeron is minding his steps when he’s around Ormond. This is the episode where he’s finally able to say, “I feel like a puppet” and “I’m only doing these things so he doesn’t harm me.”Is he in complete survival mode right now? Or is there a part of him that kind of like weirdly admires the way Ormond is playing the Game of Thrones?
AINSWORTH: I think the relationship he has with Ormond is twisted and controlling and manipulative in many ways, but I think it has a bedrock of love that’s binding it together. However warped it may be, I remember in episode 4 where in the beginning he’s kind of talking to the people of Tumbleton and gelding the man who had who had done wrong. There’s almost like a pride and an admiration there in a moment like that. But then the complete opposite, in another moment, where he’s being forced to kill Leo by Ormond. I think he has his guard up all the time with Ormond. He has to, because anything could happen at any moment. He’s had to learn how to deal with him as a character out of survival. There is an aspect of him which has an admiration and wants to be admired by Ormond as well. He’s a 17-year-old kid who’s has no parental figures. He’s sent away from his mother and I think he longs for that kind of affection.
DEADLINE: So Ormond’s assassins are raising havoc in King’s Landing, killing Daemon’s men under Ormond’s orders, but in the name of King Daeron. Do you actually think he has the aspirations to be king or, if he had a choice, would he rather just be a high lord and just not have bear the responsibility?
AINSWORTH: If you asked him two weeks before Season 3, he would never have dreamed of being king. It wasn’t on his mind. This kind of prospect has been thrust upon him in this season. He’s been thrown in the middle of the dance between Hightower and Targaryen. I think he’s still kind of grappling with the shock of it as well as questioning himself. What do I want? I find kind of that one was more interesting than the answer in many ways, the aspect of him coming of age and figuring out who he is through this chaotic time. But if he were to think about being king, it comes from a position of almost getting out of this domineering relationship. Like a sense of freedom away from that. I suppose leading with his awareness, with his kind of empathy, but also I think he has no idea nor decided on any path.
DEADLINE: You’ve spent a lot of this season basically talking a lot; there’s not a lot of action going on. You get your first big set piece even though you’re not quite involved, more of an observer. While it’s an awesome scene, there’s a very important moment, I feel, where we see how Orman reacts when he’s in a situation like this. The actual sight of blood and dead bodies makes him vomit. I’m curious, while Daeron looks rattled because of what he just witnessed, he looks over and part of me wonders, does Daeron now see Orman as a weaker leader, and not this powerful person? Does that moment give Daeron thoughts about how he can control the situation and maybe get out of this because of how Orman reacts in that moment?
AINSWORTH: I think it’s definitely a change in the way Daeron is seeing things. A lot of it is the shock of the moment, but also there is certainly something to the idea that I’ve been controlled and kind of molded by this person. As soon things become real and dangerous, he’s debilitated. And so there’s almost a frustration with that. How can I be controlled by someone who has been taken out this easily? I don’t think it computes to something directly I can use against him in that moment, but I suppose it really feels like a kettle boiling in this episode. The power dynamics are really kind of teetering and getting closer to switching the other way.
DEADLINE: I wanted to talk about the filming in general. This is your first season and this show is so broad in scope and epic action scenes, dragons, etc. I find it fascinating for you and James, it’s almost like a play where it’s grounded, you’re almost in the same room the whole time talking. Has it helped with this being your first season on the show for the two of you? To be slowly moved in where you’re not involved with these grand battles and stuff where you’re able to kind of find your footing as character,s or are you a little jealous when you see your co-stars flying dragons and in big battles?
AINSWORTH: Oh, yeah, good question. I don’t know. To be able to have your group and to be able to move around the world with your couple of actors, it just means that I’ve found at least that I’ve made these great connections between the characters, but also just as people on set, to be able to be together and have scenes where it’s just the four of us for half the show, I think it makes it easy to make communities.
DEADLINE: Is there one big move we can expect from Daeron within this home stretch or is it too early to say with what will come with him and Ormond?
AINSWORTH: I think the stage is set for a fun finish, certainly in Tumbleton. So, yeah, keep an eye on Gwayne and Daeron’s relationship and whatever Orman’s got cooking in the oven. I hope fans enjoy the last couple episodes.
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Ryan Reynolds Thanks ‘Deadpool’ Fans After Undercover Comic-Con Visit
With Deadpool regenerating for a fourth blockbuster outing, Ryan Reynolds is already getting back into character as the wisecracking mercenary.
After his surprise in-costume appearance at Comic-Con during Marvel’s Hall H presentation on Saturday, the Golden Globe nominee shared a behind-the-scenes video of his undercover visit with fans as he walked the floor at the San Diego Convention Center.
“The fans got Deadpool off the ground so many years ago,” wrote Reynolds on X with the video. “Yesterday, 10 years after the first film and exactly 2 years after Deadpool & Wolverine, I felt so lucky to be on the #SDCC floor with everyone whose unapologetic devotion brings so much joy to this world.”
The video also featured a clip of Robert Downey Jr. calling on him while hitting the stage with his Avengers: Doomsday co-stars. “Who’s this guy with the swords and stuff?” asked the Doctor Doom actor.
“Long-time listener, first-time caller,” said Reynolds into the mic as the crowd cheered. “This seems an awfully expensive way to announce a film. When do you start filming?”
Reynolds’ surprise appearance comes after he teased last week at New York’s Fantastic Fest that Deadpool 4 is in the works.
“There’s a few really deep cuts that I think are missing behind the movies. I think there’s a few deep cuts missing from some of the comics,” said Reynolds. “There’s certainly some stuff that I love that [Deadpool co-creator] Fabian Nicieza wrote that is incredible. Gerry Duggan, who was a friend, was an incredible comic writer. There’s stuff upcoming. There’s eventually, remotely another Deadpool film. It’s going to be great.”
After test footage of Reynolds as the Marvel anti-hero leaked in 2014, five years after he originated another version of the character in X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009), the actor earned a Golden Globe nomination for his performance in 2016’s Deadpool. He’s since reprised the role in Deadpool 2 (2018) and Deadpool & Wolverine (2024), the latter earning $1.3B globally and catapulting the franchise past the $2B mark.
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Dylan Mulvaney Reacts To Donald Trump’s WHCD “Diss Track”
More than three years after sparking conservative backlash with her Bud Light social media partnership, Dylan Mulvaney was as surprised as anyone to hear her name in Donald Trump‘s mouth at the rescheduled White House Correspondents’ Dinner.
Counting “four times” the POTUS mentioned her name in his speech on Friday, the Broadway actress, TikTok personality and transgender advocate reacted to being “the one that got away” for MAGA men after Trump attempted to roast her in his hour-long “diss track” at the WHCA’s annual event.
“Firstly, I would like to congratulate CNN’s Kaitlan Collins on her award and tell her that I’m incredibly honored to be compared to her in any way, and I hope that she keeps doing all the great work,” prefaced Mulvaney in a TikTok video.
After the WHCA awarded Collins the Excellence in Presidential News Coverage Under Deadline Pressure, Trump joked in his set that he “thought Kaitlan had really made it big with a major new sponsorship, but then I informed her that it wasn’t her on the Bud Light can, it was Dylan Mulvaney,” to which the audience had no reaction.
“And Dylan Mulaney cost Bud Light $35 billion dollar in market cap,” Trump continued as the crowd stayed silent. “That was the worst commercial ever made, by the way, for those few people that want to hear that. Most people don’t care, but I would. I wouldn’t want to hire Dylan anytime soon. Think of it, they hired Dylan Mulaney and their market cap has gone down by $35 billion. Who wrote that commercial?”
Noting the Bud Light video Trump mentioned was more than three years ago, Mulvaney said in her video, “Mind you, I’ve been kind of flying under the radar, keeping up a pretty low profile, just doing my little musicals, singing, dancing, and yet I am still his topic of conversation all these years later. It seems to me that I might be like the one that got away for these men. I am permanently burned into their retinas. I am microchipped into their minds.”
Mulvaney added, “Maybe being publicly mocked and criticized by this administration is actually the greatest compliment of all, because it puts me in the company of some of the most brilliant, empathetic people in our world today. … They want to use their power to take away my freedom. But what they don’t understand is that my freedom has zero contingency on what they can provide for me, because my freedom is fully dependent on the moment that I acknowledged my real authentic self and every day since, and sharing that with the world is the icing on the cake.
“They don’t want me to be able to share that,” she continued. “Because it would mean young people realizing that, if someone like me can be themselves and find success and freedom, then they can find success and freedom for themselves too.”
In April 2023, Bud Light sent a can of their beer with Mulvaney’s face on it to her, which she featured in a TikTok video, prompting intense conservative backlash and a boycott of the brand.
After spectacularly bombing with his WHCD speech, Trump continued to take swipes at his enemies on Truth Social over the weekend with a flood of AI-generated images, including one post featuring Collins’ face on Mulvaney’s body in the Bud Light video.
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Mary Beth Barone, Benito Skinner Tried To “Get Out” Of Podcast Contract
After Season 4 of Ride debuted this month, Mary Beth Barone is explaining why she and Benito Skinner have tried to get out of their Dear Media podcast contract.
The Galaxy Brain comedian explained that they “did try to get out of the contract” for their podcast that launched in 2023 but “were not able to,” following their disagreement with some of CEO Michael Bosstick’s political views.
“So, it’s definitely one of those things that feels confusing, I think, for our listeners ’cause we’re so politically vocal on the podcast, progressive,” explained Barone on the Talk Easy podcast. “I’m in the DSA [Democratic Socialists of America]. We believe in vaccines. I rode for medicine in an episode last season. I’m talking about progressive politics all the time.”
While Bosstick has identified himself as politically independent, he has supported RFK Jr. with unsubstantiated claims that the COVID vaccine “caused many harm” since the pandemic, featuring the HSS secretary and Ivanka Trump on Dear Media podcasts.
Barone said she didn’t know supporting science would be controversial, “but it is. And so, it’s good that we can address it because we’re not afraid of repercussions at this point.”
Following a “pretty frank conversation” with the higher-ups at Dear Media, Barone said, “All we can do is use the platform that they are giving us. They’ve never censored us. We’ve always said what we wanted to say. You’re not always going to align with the larger companies that you work for or that greenlight the projects that you want to make. So, it really came down to, do we want to continue doing the podcast, which the answer was yes.”
“Of course it’s hard to reconcile that,” added Barone. “But I do think that if you look at the top of many companies, you’re going to find people who align with those politics. So, it’s not necessarily asking people for cognitive dissonance, but it’s this idea that there’s really no way to navigate the world without interacting with companies like that. If anyone’s figured it out, please let me know. … I saw one comment that said, ‘There’s no ethical consumption under capitalism.’ And I’m sure that might feel like an easy out at times, like you’re just allowing these things then because you think there’s no way of winning or there’s no way of doing it in the ethical way. But I truly believe that.”
On the Season 4 premiere episode of Ride, Barone mentioned their “substantial political differences” with the top brass, noting that “when we started, it was a bit of a different situation.”
“The crazy thing about a contract is, it is a contract, and I always forget that,” said Skinner, adding: “I think the unfortunate thing is that, sometimes you sign a contract, and you don’t know all affiliations when you do. And those come into the light, which is unfortunate.”
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